Monday, August 10, 2009

Apologies to All

Recently, I posted about the arrest and incarceration of Hal Turner here:

In that post, I said the following:

Now, I have no love for Hal Turner. I was one of his biggest opponents on VNN and at the Knoxville rally. I think he is a huckster and he's in it all for himself. His wolf cries were all show for the most part. I have and still want him to drop out of the so-called movement because he's a liability, in my view. He drains needed resources from our meager funding and competes, not works with, others in the movement that are actually trying to build something.

For a long time I thought he was a Fed and there is no doubt he had a cozy relationship with the Law. This was seen at Knoxville. I no longer think he is a Fed but a lot of his antics you could pull right out of the Fed manual of subversion and division.

I then went on to say that since there is no proof of him being an actual informer, we should close ranks since a White Man was being attacked by the ZOG.

Well, I was wrong. I wanted to wait until today when more evidence would be out to make up my mind. I do not accuse people of being Feds lightly. In the future, when the insurgency is in full swing, such a accusation will be a death sentence.

From White Reference, a very reliable source for what's going on in the "movement", we find this today:

prosecutors acknowledged that Turner was an FBI informant, paid by the government to spy on radical right-wing organizations. They say he told federal marshals about a man's threat to disrupt a Chicago rally by lobbing mortars into Grant Park following President Barack Obama's election, which means he was an informant far beyond the 2002-7 time period originally claimed, although he was only paid for his services during the 2002-5 time frame. Turner even turned over a silencer kit for a .22-caliber weapon to the FBI. The Feds claim they paid Turner "tens of thousands of dollars" for his services.

I should have went with my gut. I remember when Hal first hit the Net, I listened to him then. Yet, something seemed strange about him. He would claim such things as Chinese troops massed at the border (an old Bircher trick) or making claims such as starting earthquakes in South America were just blight wing to me. Then one day I heard him spitting into the Microphone with rage about loser White Trash who wouldn't send him money and that did for me. I knew something was up. later, he would urge people to go out and shoot people by name, or claim he had snipers ready for the pigs, just stupid crap that only a blight winger or someone insecure would buy into.

Now I know there are a lot of people that are desperate for a Leader that will shape up this movement, and many looked to Turner. I did try to warn people about him but i was attacked unrelentingly on VNN and other sites for doing so.

My decision to get behind this guy even though i knew better proved to be a mistake. I hope no one here sent him any support, because anyone that co-operates with the enemy of our people deserve a lot more than jail time. They must be cut off completely. NEVER TAKE BACK A SNITCH. Ever.

I'm afraid when Hal gets out, his following will return as if nothing has happened. We must make sure we cut ourselves off from such people, because they are worthless to us in this struggle. I hope you who are reading this will not be one of those people.

So, in closing, my apologies and I hope you will forgive me. I will endeavor to not be so careless in the future.

The 14 Words. That's what really counts.


Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

Well man, you make mistakes like we're all prone to (and will) do. You were good to be suspicious and call for caution.

Although we as Christians mourn the state of affairs with our kinsmen, we have a higher calling from Christ Himself to test the waters even deeper.

Many take offense to this, although we as faithful servant/soldiers have no choice in the matter. Well, actually we do and if we insist on disregarding His warnings ... more of the same is bound to occur. Perhaps with deeper ramifications next time.

In time our folk will come to understand that indeed our concern for them was of the deepest nature and carried with it the highest degree of success.

Hand to the plough brother ... work to be done.

Joy said...

Awww brother! Don't beat yourself up over it. Your heart was in the right place. You were leary and suspicious of Turner, but had compassion on a fellow White man. There is no wrong in that. I felt the same way.I hate seeing our folks in jail.
Time to move on from Turner. The question, "Is he or isn't he?"has been answered.
Also, you are right that when Turner is released, alot of his devotees will return to him.
"Ever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth"

Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

"Also, you are right that when Turner is released, alot of his devotees will return to him.
"Ever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth"

The name Glen Miller comes to mind.

Anonymous said...

In addition to being an FBI-informant, Hal Turner is NOT a “white nationalist.” In fact, not only has Turner claimed that he is not, but has stated that anyone calling him a “white nationalist” is “defaming” him. What’s more, white nationalists have termed Turner a “freak show” and “mental-case.”

Orion said...

Thanks all. No matter how much we might dislike or disagree with someone, when the ZOG attacks, I've always felt we should close ranks. I guess I'm just that way since I look at people on our side as a sort of family, and even though we may have fights or disagree with each other on a host of issues, showing a united front to our enemies is what counts.

However, when it comes to members working with the enemy or betraying our trust, then they must be cast out and never allowed to return. It is the way of our ancestors, and it will protect us in the end.

I never want to mislead people intentionally or give aid and comfort to our enemies, so I wanted to apologize.

Now that we know the truth, we can move forward, and hopefully build something that will outlast this multiracial cesspool of an empire.

Hail The Victory!

Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

"I never want to mislead people intentionally or give aid and comfort to our enemies .."

I'll tell ya man - I've been doing alot of self examination myself lately. I never really took the time to thoroughly pore over it, but I've spent a good amount of time lately reading Pastor Lindstedt's material.
Really got me to thinking.

I got a couple questions though and will have to dig further.

Christ's victory is assured !

Orion said...

Hey Jeff, you'll have to share your thoughts. I've kept up with Martin for years, and even though he may seem a bit umm..on the crazy side, i think it's from a fire inside that can't be put out.

What i like about him is his positions on traitors and how he has fought the ZOG, been set up on charges and never has he bowed.

That's the way i see him, anyway. What's your thoughts?

Truth said...

"The name Glen Miller comes to mind."

And another raving lunatic who trolls and infests WN blogs that shall go unamed.

[Well, little hint: Wheeler MacPherson has referred to him as the Mentally Ill Commenter (MIC) LOL]

Shalmaneser said...

Hal Turner and his following are proof that there's still a long way to go for Kwans to understand that this race thing isn't a trendy little game/scenester thing to tag along with for the fun of it.

Our race is being targeted for extermination by hypocrites who justify their treason & genocide by calling us 'racists.' This is what I call "I'm rubber, you're glue" reasoning since the leftists/judeo-blightwing and their subhuman allies continually target us for their hatred solely on the basis of our skin color! That fits their own criterion for 'racism' doesn't it? But like all retards the left and subhuman allies can never be consistent in their beliefs because it is only their hateful and murderous emotion, desire for personal gain, and sense of entitlement that drives them - for all of their pretensions of being on the side of 'reason.'

"Woe to he who calls evil good, and good evil." This fight is far from over and the traitors must not be left breathing.

Shalmaneser said...

The name Glen Miller comes to mind.

I don't know if you follow VNNF but Miller has vehemently denied being an informant (I think it was Mark Faust that called him on that and he got very angry and defensive).

Even so, it is not satisfactory to assume that Miller is an informant without proof and it would be very NKVD-jewish to assume his guilt prior to being certain.

But I also agree with ORION in the sense that we have to go with gut instincts. If you get a suspicion and the alarms inside start going off, don't ignore it/them.

PS Pastor Lindstedt is a great guy and very smart - yes, he's fiery and zealous but also exceedingly clear-sighted - especially regarding traitors!

Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

Let's take a survey of the Order members and get their input concerning Glenn Miller.

And Dan Gayman.

The evidence is in the Fort Smith trial transcripts.

Maybe some forget after 25 years but not when you're looking out thru bars for a quarter century.

Orion said...

Amen, brother Jeff. I believe there has already been a survey taken of the Order members, and the results are a resounding thumbs down!

Shalmaneser, you're right about Lindstedt. He may be a lot of things but he's not traitor and he does have a gift for sniffing out those that are.

Of course, we have that freak Apollonian running around defending Hal Turner. These are the type of people we not only must separate from, but grind them into pig meal when the time comes, along with our enemies.

Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

Yeah man, I was just being brutally sarcastic. He snitched alot of folks out. Let's not forget to mention circuit riding Tom Martinez either.

We're gonna be quite surprised to see the infiltrators among us exposed one by one - and just how high up they go. Just takes time.

Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

Hey man - I wouldn't call attention to this otherwise, but since Demetrius saw fit to slide a comment in way after interest passed that posting ... I wrote a final comment to him.

It's the post -

James Von Brunn and the Politics of the Deed.

You got a credible comment to counter it with, put it up Demetrius and I'll listen. Otherwise take a seat in the back of the damn bus.


Hal Turner- making whites look bad. That is the 'objective' of these criminal God haters.
Orion, I'll take Boxer and Feinstein, you take Schumer and Frank- the world would be a better place when they are gone :) oops, not nice....

Shalmaneser said...


I just didn't want to go yapping off that Glenn was a traitor since I don't know him nor his history. So I'm not disagreeing, just saying I don't have evidence that Miller's a snitch.


Since I'm part Pollock the good Pastor would probably want me dead. But that fact doesn't preclude my enjoying most of his writings. Ultimately he has some pretty right-on insights by anyone's standards - like people say sometimes there's a fine line between genius and crazy.

Jeff ( Va. Rebel ) said...

How about listening to the words of those who were there for starts ... they are not allowed to communicate between themselves, so there is no concocted story -

Lyonene said...

'People like Wendy would have no problem with the brown masses as long as they weren’t muslim. “Red and Yellow, Black and White, they are precious in his sight” types. Absolutely worthless to our struggle, but very useful idiots of the jews.'

Wendy is a W.N. Orion- she DESPISES Mexican people and has not much love for blacks.
Just b/c People take up for right wing Jews Orion, does NOT make them an enemy.

McKinley BJB said...

The Dirty jew is our biggest enemy along with the white race traitors.

The Niggers aren't the ones to blame because, the Niggers are only doing what Niggers know how to do. That is rape, rob and kill Whit people.

The Filthy jew sicced all of these non white savages on us.

Follow this link to What the jew and white traitors got us to this point.